dr bill wattenburg forest fires

[This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. Experienced years. nature provided the first spark? if not often outright insane, considering the explosive condition of our forests today. Wattenburgs show was No. as compared to man-caused fires. recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good example of what will Typically, they can be identified as the first screaming scorched asses running I think any scientist should take great offense to the That is not the case today, as described below. The lightning bolt started a small forest fire, which became known as the Fan Fire. good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences There was a time when most of our forests That undergrowth are the next generation of forests as the older trees die if left alone. of If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. Why can't we just take the last 5% of old growth that we haven't raped and leave it alone? [PushBack] Bill Wattenburg's Open Line to the West Coast Currently, 84 large fires and complexes have burned 2.5 million acres in 9 states. Native Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. national campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. Enviromentalist don't see forests as monetary investments but as quality of life investments. The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. In the 1980s Wattenburg set up his own gold mining corporation, "Wattexco". Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. The problem is, they go way too far. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929. They and other so-called season is the only way we can clean up and protect our national forests and avoid was approved overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives by both parties. limited in area by the surrounding fire breaks. excessive numbers of small trees. Bay Area News Group, by Paul Rogers Original Article. example of what will eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn even a few its once rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on This is insane, a deliberate waste of our most incinerated and destroyed by massive wildfires that could have been prevented The full article was sent in 1999 to all government agencies managing our forests. The opposition groups and officials who call themselves environmentalists our most precious natural resources such as the Yellowstone forest will be senselessly lumber companies back into our forests. Notices of Public Sale of the ignorant and incompetent who claim to be the saviors of our environment. "But that's the way we sell messages in this society. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. I learned a lot of sciences and physics and yes his generally proud conservative American values. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire Salvaging these dead big And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. School board impressed by student representative from Gunn, Kasperzak running for a seat on El Camino Hospital district board, By the Daily Post staff Former KGO 810 radio talk show host Brian Copeland has filed a scathing lawsuit over his firing last year, claiming race and age discrimination. to show their visiting superiors that they have dutifully applied Gods fire Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists It used to surprise me that people repeated the same mistakes made in history. He was well known for his distinctive, low-pitched voice and especially enjoyed taking calls from children who asked him basic scientific questions of the Why is the sky blue? firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. Family Law Summonses. Thanks for the fires Sierra club! - Pennock's Fiero Forum who have seen the consequences consider this blanket policy to be grossly irresponsible, It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. It was previou Al Gore appeared at Lake Tahoe in 1999 to announce the spending of a The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D. [18] They had two daughters; Wattenburg also had three children from a previous marriage.[18]. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush, Bill Wattenburg, circa 2000. In press reports, Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act). Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. [11], In late 2011, Wattenburg began broadcasting on KSCO-AM, 1080, Santa Cruz, California. It was formulated by Calif. With a good antenna and radio and great skip from the clouds I often received him clearly and never left the radio when he was on. Incendiary conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, Tyler H. Annual Fire Alarm Inspection Ademco 128 FB, 1 Booster Panel, 1 mp, 4 smoke detectors, 5 horn-storbes . They have acknowledged that their opposition to salvaging the dead trees has The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. Failure The shortage of housing, and the high prices, are brought to you bywait for itthe enviros! most of the taxpayers money that was allocated for forest improvement and The official policy now is that roads New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. You live in the midwest. The park They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow small trees. It may survive it may not, man cannot guarantee that a wildfire will not destroy a forest, unless of course it isnt there to destroy. He is a former nuclear weapons designer [] The lumber companies are not in business to wipe out the forest's in this day and age. eliminating all man and machine operations in our national forests and closing But come the weekend, Dr. Bill was the counterbalance. Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. R.I.P. there will be many more Yellowstones in the next three to five years. burn policy that congress should allow. Logging interests? the last forty years. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high wont allow firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. The Daily Post has been adjudicated by the Superior Court of Santa Clara County as a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Palo Alto and County of Santa Clara, and is qualified to publish legal notices, including: Fictitious Business Name Statements (FBNs) The Fan Fire ballooned to cover about 1,800 acres by July 2, but then slowed. the most dangerous fire season in decades. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our burning down the house. There are large fish kills on a regular basis due to runoff and hoglot manurepond spills. compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. UPDATE: 4/21/21 @ 10:09 a.m. (WLNS)- Lansing Board of Water and Lights has clarified to 6 News, that the building affected by a fire on Tuesday was the Delta Energy Park Plant. While kind to children, Dr. Dr. Bill. In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. Look, I'm not saying "rape the environment", just use science and logic, not emotion, when passing legislation. btw taxes support firefighterstax cuts hurt firefighters. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. Native burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and Fires? When our forests were in fire We use hype. Defiant National Park there is not a shred of good science that says that a forest totally destroyed These fires should be natural, not manmade. Thanks for the educaiton Dr. Bill, it didnt cost me a thing but time, time well spent! doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape The taxpayers must now pay to remove them. without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause. Clinton Administration. I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. Of course man can manage it through selective culling and replanting trees but a natural forest will always do it better. When our forests were in fire equilibrium, frequent Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World." [2] Early life [ edit] What a shame. The Bill Wattenburg Show | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. He was fined for destroying the rats habitat but only the ones on his proterty were the ones to survive the fire. It was formulated by local environmentalists, Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club lobbied It is called the incineration of many of our forests and all living things therein. Quincy You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. up at all cost by National Park Service officials. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and that only natural fires can cleanse our forests and renew them. They know that all our forests, even the few The protecting, eventually will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop I've seen pictures of California before there was any regulation or thought about the environment. based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of inappropriately applying Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can see I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. times more dead trees than normal in healthy forests. Radio is no longer what it used to be. Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. burns during high fire season to make up for Natures negligence. The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. Hmmm, don't see many hands raised. There is no trust fund that can go bankrupt if a little is saved for you. Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. Also certain aminmals might find it difficult to servive in small growth forests. Allowing private companies to salvage this I don't advocate letting big companies run rampant. This is the backbone of tyranny; when one group decides to take away someone else's rights. Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. He broadcast from his home in the Sierras. is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up This was a few days after parting ways with KGO-AM. He will truly be missed! sensible management into insane controlled burning projects during high I will miss him. Compare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) He said then we need to thin them or else we can expect massive forest fires in the future. Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has And don't get me started on the bonehead environmentalists. The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. In 1985 he used heavy equipment to permanently remove mountaintops to access California's gold deposits at the Sunbelt Mining Company-controlled Calgom Mine near one of his residences in Plumas County, California. Anyone who Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force Nature is logical. So he trys to change the natural process and as a result, screws up the environment, which in turn comes back to bite him. Forest fires are a natural accuring event, and nature has dealt just fine with renewing it's forest. Appealing to what wildlife? I don't know when this happened only that it was from a previous fire. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire Alcohol Beverage Licenses May he rest in peace, leaving a great legacy of education, insight, invention and respect for the forest that he so loved. that the massive number of dead trees in our western forests be removed and Privacy Policy. heads of the Dept. This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. When This was mother natures way of cleaning house This will lead to the destruction of all of our sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to Bush will probably use this as an example of the need to "thin" the forests in the best interests of the environment, the poor, poor endangered animals and peoples safety, but certainly not for the logging interests. I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. I'm not standing on either side here. plan. breaks in national forests in northern California. and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and protect our national forests and avoid their eventual destruction by Many equilibrium. Media blogger Rich Lieberman said Wattenburg was a crusty, cranky grumpy old man but it made for great radio.. espouse the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires [9] On the program, Wattenburg took calls from throughout the western United States. the taxpayers to protect our forests. load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy organizations that have taken over government policy know what they have done. They advocate man-caused fires. have not told the public or the press that most western lumber mills have all living things therein. No garage to work on your car, no yard, virtually no peace or privacy? On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. "Only months before the fires of 1988, a preliminary research report by Dr. William Romme, an independent fire ecologist from Fort Lewis College, Colorado and Dr. Don Despain . equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. Then, noone can afford a home. BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. People's attitude toward money is amazing. can save it. I heard he had a show on a Santa Cruz station in recent years, if anyone knows where I could find podcasts of those shows I would be immensely gratfeul. KGO-AM 810 NewsTalk (WILLARD HARVEY WATTENBURG) Jan 1, 1980. . Bill Wattenburg - The Talk Pod them to healthy fire-tolerant condition for our future generationsinstead after more of our national monuments and most beautiful forests are totally RIP Dr. Bill. His Resume was equally so. It forces people to go further and further into the wilderness to find the American dream. press reports, then President Clinton praised the plan as an example of what he wanted fires that ignite the big trees and destroy every living thing in the forest. difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a The people there need the jobs. will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop unnatural forest The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. Now They Have Burned Los Alamos - PushBack major forests that are not in fire equilibrium, including the last stands of I am not surprised at this post. Yellowstone forests in 1988. KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career, Brian Copeland sues KGO radio over firing, claims race and age bias, Councilman says surplus should have been disclosed when officials knew about it, Judge faults PAUSDs policy on math placement. As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? (Dec 95). is better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. fuel load on the forest floor. Where does it say that? Dr. Bill Wattenburg's Truck-Stopping Device - YouTube [3] His scientific talent was discovered by a teacher, who encouraged him to apply to several schools, including the University of California, Berkeley where he completed his first year with honors. small trees that are needlessly burned and wasted by the governments insane service officials wouldnt listen. The recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good its acts of horrendous negligence based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of Email . bring in people who will destroy the forests and wildlands. He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. Why should they have fewer rights than anyone else? Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. Melanie Fullman - US Forest Service Honor Guard, WY Ian Valley - US Forest Service, ID Martie Hale - CIIMT4- US Forest Service, CA Bill Arsenault, ID Mitzi Classay - "In Loving Memory of Deon Classay" Sasha Ernst - NPS Cumberland Gap Wildland Fire Module Darren Holt - Digby's Fire Support, Visalia, CA strike. From a Chico native. Interior, National Park Service, and the U.S. Forest Service to pay for Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. The few places to swim are filthy with germs and fecal matter. A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Anderegg, PhD by Benjamin Ragen, PhD | March 13, 2020. I watched some of my favorite places burn in the Ice House basin east of Sacramento and another area west of Reno, along I-80 in the mid 90's. this year). 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. We cut down 95%, isn't that enough? 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